tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post3352689560951810196..comments2024-01-30T23:33:48.363-08:00Comments on Travis Yanan Watches TV: Spinning Cupid: A Case For RenewalTravis Yananhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13566813154309872307noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-2026148046968491162009-04-01T16:40:00.000-07:002009-04-01T16:40:00.000-07:00Thanks for the reply ,Travis. It does make sense ...Thanks for the reply ,Travis. It does make sense that when two shows competing for renewal are getting around the same demo, retention would be factored in.<BR/><BR/>I wasn't a fan of Cupid last night, but for your friends that work on the show, I hope it does well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-79679794321271392102009-04-01T16:15:00.000-07:002009-04-01T16:15:00.000-07:00I agree with Ted, I would like to see both Castle ...I agree with Ted, I would like to see both Castle and Cupid stay on. Though to be honest, Sarah Paulson is the only reason I'm watching Cupid, she is fantastic. I enjoyed the first episode, hopefully it will get a fair shot at making it.Alishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05300022940144102571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-7189959289801290322009-04-01T15:39:00.000-07:002009-04-01T15:39:00.000-07:00@Anonymous 3:18PMYes and no. What we're reall...@Anonymous 3:18PM<BR/><BR/>Yes and no. What we're really quibbling about here is which show gets renewed next season, if any. Putting aside all other differences (cost, behind the scenes, drama, etc), if two shows have relatively the same demo (like CUPID and CASTLE, this week), but one retains significantly more of its lead-in than the other (like CUPID does), then what that ought to say is the network should renew CUPID over CASTLE.<BR/><BR/>However, since the actual numbers *are* low, as you point out, CUPID shouldn't stay where it is if the network is to capitalize on the renewal decision (that was made for retention reasons). The network would have to move CUPID elsewhere (and, in the case of CUPID, the network could actually put some promotional money behind the move). The question then is "where can we put a series to give it a better shot?" Would CUPID do better on Mondays at 10pm out of the stronger DWTS performance show lead-in than CASTLE is doing? Or better on Thursdays at 8pm than UGLY BETTY or the IN THE MOTHERHOOD / SAMANTHA WHO? block is doing? Do you move BROTHERS & SISTERS and put CUPID after DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES? I could go on, but won't.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if CUPID sinks next week, the question is moot, because while we've seen ABC is willing to stick with shows with mid 2s (i.e. BOSTON LEGAL) in the demo, it doesn't renew anything lower than that. In that sense, the overall number is of utmost importance.<BR/><BR/>While we're on that subject, CASTLE is due for a drop next week, too, because DWTS will not be leading directly into it (and no one is predicting SURVIVING SUBURBIA will perform remotely as well as the final 30 minutes of DWTS).<BR/><BR/>The overall question, of course, is "will ABC even see to renew any of the midseason dramas it's introducing?" That depends on its pilots as well as the ratings.Travis Yananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13566813154309872307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-67661488230519645912009-04-01T15:18:00.000-07:002009-04-01T15:18:00.000-07:00Isn't the demo, especially with ABC much more impo...Isn't the demo, especially with ABC much more important than retention?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-16411712107208383952009-04-01T15:12:00.000-07:002009-04-01T15:12:00.000-07:00@TedI honestly don't know what to make of Cupi...@Ted<BR/><BR/>I honestly don't know what to make of Cupid not dropping at 10:02. Like you said... it never happens. The retention is SLIGHTLY worse because DWTS improved a tad... but still in the PP/B&S range (see <A HREF="http://travisyanan.blogspot.com/2009/04/cupid-finals-update.html" REL="nofollow">my newer post</A>.<BR/><BR/>For my friends' sake, I'm going to take it as an encouraging sign.<BR/><BR/>Also, I will tell them they have a avid fan :DTravis Yananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13566813154309872307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-81936504208696232512009-04-01T14:21:00.000-07:002009-04-01T14:21:00.000-07:00So Travis do you think the fact that CUPID didnt d...So Travis do you think the fact that CUPID didnt drop in the finals even though DWTS went up 2 tenths is encouraging? That never happensTednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-83789245747676536392009-04-01T12:45:00.000-07:002009-04-01T12:45:00.000-07:00I know Travis, but CBS has the luxury of not needi...I know Travis, but CBS has the luxury of not needing to premiere 17 new shows since most of theirs work and then they defy ratings normality when shows like NCIS grown in year 6!!!! That never happens. Plus in terms of patience ABC supports shows much more than CBS does. No way would CBS let BOSTON LEGAL run for 5 years with low 2's even though they are techincally not young skewing. CBS would never have brought back ELI STONE for another year.<BR/><BR/>My issues with ABC aside, and you know I think they could have promoted CUPID more, although they did a nice job the last week and honestly I bet the results would not have been different. (It would have been nice if CUPID could have gotten a shot behind DH or GA, but you can't have everything).<BR/><BR/>Yes my point, The truth is ABC is much more creative and takes more risks than CBS and also usually goes all the way in terms of promotion and in the case of ELI DSM and PD tries to give shows they believe in a real shot.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, your friends at the show should be proud of what you are trying to do. Let them know they have at least one avid fan that really appreciates the show.Tednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-66528533929809993652009-04-01T11:37:00.000-07:002009-04-01T11:37:00.000-07:00@TedI think the monkeys at ABC are asking themselv...@Ted<BR/><BR/>I think the monkeys at ABC are asking themselves the very same question (I have an idea, though... it comes from not premiering 17 new shows every year, and having the patience to leave some shows in a timeslot long enough to gain a following).<BR/><BR/>@Anonymous<BR/><BR/>... I'm EXHAUSTED. Hope my friends on the show appreciate it!Travis Yananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13566813154309872307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-52959062770176340822009-04-01T11:35:00.000-07:002009-04-01T11:35:00.000-07:00Travis, You must be dizzy from all the spinning...Travis, <BR/> You must be dizzy from all the spinning. :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7978715818371029793.post-13933361335052247592009-04-01T11:31:00.000-07:002009-04-01T11:31:00.000-07:00Travis,As you know I would like nothing more than ...Travis,<BR/><BR/>As you know I would like nothing more than CUPID to work. (I happen to like CASTLE as well) so I appreciate your time and effort on this. I just don't understand why no matter how good/relatable a new show is on ABC it can't make it, thse last few years, whereas CBS can premiere someone sitting on the toilet for an hour and it almost always works.Tednoreply@blogger.com